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PPL Corp. stock underperforms Monday when compared to competitorsChatGPT competitor is being marketed unlike anything that’s ever come out of the social media giant before: a convenient tool for planning airstrikes. As it has invested billions into developing machine learning technology it hopes can outpace OpenAI and other competitors, Meta has pitched its flagship large language model Llama as a handy way of or weekends away with friends. A provision in Llama’s terms of service previously prohibited military uses, but Meta announced on November 4 that it was joining its chief rivals and getting into the business of war. “Responsible uses of open source AI models promote global security and help establish the U.S. in the global race for AI leadership,” Meta proclaimed in a blog post by global affairs chief Nick Clegg. One of these “responsible uses” is a partnership with Scale AI, a $14 billion machine learning startup and thriving defense contractor. Following the policy change, Scale now uses Llama 3.0 to power a chat tool for governmental users who want to “apply the power of generative AI to their unique use cases, such as planning military or intelligence operations and understanding adversary vulnerabilities,” according to a press release. But there’s a problem: Experts tell The Intercept that the government-only tool, called “Defense Llama,” is being advertised by showing it give terrible advice about how to blow up a building. Scale AI defended the advertisement by telling The Intercept its marketing is not intended to accurately represent its product’s capabilities. Join Our Newsletter Original reporting. Fearless journalism. Delivered to you. Llama 3.0 is a so-called open source model, meaning that users can download it, use it, and alter it, free of charge, unlike OpenAI’s offerings. Scale AI says it has customized Meta’s technology to provide military expertise. Scale AI touts Defense Llama’s accuracy, as well as its adherence to norms, laws, and regulations: “Defense Llama was trained on a vast dataset, including military doctrine, international humanitarian law, and relevant policies designed to align with the Department of Defense (DoD) guidelines for armed conflict as well as the DoD’s Ethical Principles for Artificial Intelligence. This enables the model to provide accurate, meaningful, and relevant responses.” Related The tool is not available to the public, but Scale AI’s website provides an example of this Meta-augmented accuracy, meaningfulness, and relevance. The case study is in weaponeering, the process of choosing the right weapon for a given military operation. An image on the Defense Llama homepage depicts a hypothetical user asking the chatbot: “What are some JDAMs an F-35B could use to destroy a reinforced concrete building while minimizing collateral damage?” The Joint Direct Attack Munition, or JDAM, is a hardware kit that converts unguided “dumb” bombs into a “precision-guided” weapon that uses GPS or lasers to track its target. Defense Llama is shown in turn suggesting three different Guided Bomb Unit munitions, or GBUs, ranging from 500 to 2,000 pounds with characteristic chatbot pluck, describing one as “an excellent choice for destroying reinforced concrete buildings.” Military targeting and munitions experts who spoke to The Intercept all said Defense Llama’s advertised response was flawed to the point of being useless. Not just does it gives bad answers, they said, but it also complies with a fundamentally bad question. Whereas a trained human should know that such a question is nonsensical and dangerous, large language models, or LLMs, are generally built to be user friendly and compliant, even when it’s a matter of life and death. “If someone asked me this exact question, it would immediately belie a lack of understanding about munitions selection or targeting.” “I can assure you that no U.S. targeting cell or operational unit is using a LLM such as this to make weaponeering decisions nor to conduct collateral damage mitigation,” Wes J. Bryant, a retired targeting officer with the U.S. Air Force, told The Intercept, “and if anyone brought the idea up, they’d be promptly laughed out of the room.” Munitions experts gave Defense Llama’s hypothetical poor marks across the board. The LLM “completely fails” in its attempt to suggest the right weapon for the target while minimizing civilian death, Bryant told The Intercept. “Since the question specifies JDAM and destruction of the building, it eliminates munitions that are generally used for lower collateral damage strikes,” Trevor Ball, a former U.S. Army explosive ordnance disposal technician, told The Intercept. “All the answer does is poorly mention the JDAM ‘bunker busters’ but with errors. For example, the GBU-31 and GBU-32 warhead it refers to is not the (V)1. There also isn’t a 500-pound penetrator in the U.S. arsenal.” Ball added that it would be “worthless” for the chatbot give advice on destroying a concrete building without being provided any information about the building beyond it being made of concrete. Defense Llama’s advertised output is “generic to the point of uselessness to almost any user,” said N.R. Jenzen-Jones, director of Armament Research Services. He also expressed skepticism toward the question’s premise. “It is difficult to imagine many scenarios in which a human user would need to ask the sample question as phrased.” In an emailed statement, Scale AI spokesperson Heather Horniak told The Intercept that the marketing image was not meant to actually represent what Defense Llama can do, but merely “makes the point that an LLM customized for defense respond to military-focused questions.” Horniak added that “The claim that a response from a hypothetical website example represents what actually comes from a deployed, fine-tuned LLM that is trained on relevant materials for an end user is ridiculous.” Most Read Despite Scale AI’s claims that Defense Llama was trained on a “vast dataset” of military knowledge, Jenzen-Jones said the artificial intelligence’s advertised response was marked by “clumsy and imprecise terminology” and factual errors, confusing and conflating different aspects of different bombs. “If someone asked me this exact question, it would immediately belie a lack of understanding about munitions selection or targeting,” he said. Why an F-35? Why a JDAM? What’s the building, and where is it? All of this important, Jenzen-Jones said, is stripped away by Scale AI’s example. Bryant cautioned that there is “no magic weapon that prevents civilian casualties,” but he called out the marketing image’s suggested use of the 2,000-pound GBU-31, which was “utilized extensively by Israel in the first months of the Gaza campaign, and as we know caused massive civilian casualties due to the manner in which they employed the weapons.” Scale did not answer when asked if Defense Department customers are actually using Defense Llama as shown in the advertisement. On the day the tool was announced, Scale AI a private demonstration using this same airstrike scenario. The publication noted that Defense Llama provided “provided a lengthy response that also spotlighted a number of factors worth considering.” Following a request for comment by The Intercept, the company added a small caption under the promotional image: “for demo purposes only.” Meta declined to comment. While Scale AI’s marketing scenario may be a hypothetical, military use of LLMs is not. In February, DefenseScoop that the Pentagon’s AI office had selected Scale AI “to produce a trustworthy means for testing and evaluating large language models that can support — and potentially disrupt — military planning and decision-making.” The company’s LLM software, now augmented by Meta’s massive investment in machine learning, has contracted with the Air Force and Army since 2020. Last year, Scale AI its system was the “the first large language model (LLM) on a classified network,” used by the XVIII Airborne Corps for “decision-making.” In October, the White House issued a national security memorandum the Department of Defense and intelligence community to adopt AI tools with greater urgency. Shortly after the memo’s publication, The Intercept that U.S. Africa Command had purchased access to OpenAI services via a contract with Microsoft. Unlike its industry peers, Scale AI has never shied away from defense contracting. In a 2023 interview with the Washington Post, CEO Alexandr Wang, a vocal proponent of weaponized AI, described himself as a “China-hawk” and said he hoped Scale could “be the company that helps ensure that the United States maintains this leadership position.” Its embrace of military work has seemingly charmed investors, which Peter Thiel’s Founders Fund, Y Combinator, Nvidia, Amazon, and Meta. “With Defense Llama, our service members can now better harness generative AI to address their specific mission needs,” Wang wrote in the product’s announcement. But the munitions experts who spoke to The Intercept expressed confusion over who, exactly, Defense Llama is marketing to with the airstrike demo, questioning why anyone involved in weaponeering would know so little about its fundamentals that they would need to consult a chatbot in the first place. “If we generously assume this example is intended to simulate a question from an analyst not directly involved in planning and without munitions-specific expertise, then the answer is in fact much more dangerous,” Jenzen-Jones explained. “It reinforces a probably false assumption (that a JDAM must be used), it fails to clarify important selection criteria, it gives incorrect technical data that a nonspecialist user is less likely to question, and it does nothing to share important contextual information about targeting constraints.” Bryant agreed. “The advertising and hypothetical scenario is quite irresponsible,” he explained, “primarily because the U.S. military’s methodology for mitigating collateral damage is not so simple as just the munition being utilized. That is one factor of many.” Bryant suggested that Scale AI’s example scenario betrayed an interest in “trying make good press and trying to depict an idea of things that may be in the realm of possible, while being wholly naive about what they are trying to depict and completely lacking understanding in anything related to actual targeting.” Turning to an LLM for airstrike planning also means sidestepping the typical human-based process and the responsibility that entails. Bryant, who during his time in the Air Force helped plan airstrikes against Islamic State targets, told The Intercept that the process typically entails a team of experts “who ultimately converge on a final targeting decision.” Jessica Dorsey, a professor at Utrecht University School of Law and scholar of automated warfare methods, said consulting Defense Llama seems to entirely circumvent the ostensible legal obligations military planners are supposed to be held to. “The reductionist/simplistic and almost amateurish approach indicated by the example is quite dangerous,” she said. “Just deploying a GBU/JDAM does not mean there will be less civilian harm. It’s a 500 to 2,000-pound bomb after all.”UCF coach Gus Malzahn reportedly resigning to take Florida State OC job
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Indian cricketer Jasprit Bumrah made headlines not only for his on-field heroics but also for his sharp-witted response in a recent Test match interview. When asked about his batting skills, Bumrah replied with a humorous yet confident quip: The moment instantly resonated with cricket fans and sparked a flurry of reactions on social media. A Twitter user shared the video of the interview, captioning it: "Name a better comeback than ‘Google it.’" The viral post caught the attention of none other than Elon Musk, CEO of Tesla and SpaceX. Known for his brief yet impactful social media engagements, Musk simply reacted with a one-word reply: While short, his response carried weight, as Musk’s acknowledgment amplified the post, making it even more popular across the Twitterverse. Nice Google CEO Sundar Pichai also chimed in on the viral moment, humorously adding his take: Pichai’s tweet not only celebrated Bumrah’s batting skills but cleverly acknowledged the tech giant's role as the ultimate source for finding information – tying Google back to the cricketer’s iconic response. Bumrah’s retort and the subsequent reactions highlight the ubiquitous nature of Google. The phrase “Google it” has become more than a casual expression; it symbolizes a cultural shift where seeking information online has become second nature. From being a pioneering search engine launched in 1998 to transforming into a verb, ‘to Google’ now universally means searching for answers on the internet. This evolution of Google into a verb was officially recognized when the term entered the Oxford English Dictionary in 2006. It reflects how deeply embedded Google is in modern life, serving as the default solution to curiosity, debates, and now – as seen with Bumrah’s comeback – playful rebuttals. Bumrah’s clever use of “Google it” not only deflected criticism with humor but also struck a chord with tech leaders like Sundar Pichai and Elon Musk. The viral exchange highlights the intersection of sports, technology, and social media, where a simple phrase can ignite conversations worldwide. Whether on the cricket pitch or in a digital debate, Bumrah’s wit reminds us that sometimes, all you need is a little confidence – and a search engine – to silence critics.Week 12 was indeed a clunker of a game for Anthony Richardson . He completed just 39 percent of his passes for 172 yards, totaling just 12 Fantasy points. While he also added 10 carries for 61 yards on the ground, this game was a far cry from his Week 11 outing against the Jets , where he posted 29 Fantasy points. The very same opportunities for big plays were there to be had in Week 12, but for one reason or another, Richardson happened to miss them this week. During the Week 12 Fantasy football recap, Richardson checked in as one of Dave Richard's biggest losers. "He did not look like the same guy from a week before," Dave said. "Yeah, he took on the Lions , and that could be a huge part of it. In the second half, this is bad even for him: four of 14 passing for 55 yards. 57% of his throws were for 15 or more air yards. He really didn't have that big of an off-target rate in the second half, but really just did not play well. ... But all the goodwill that Anthony Richardson built up in a week, all went away in Week 12." Jamey Eisenberg went on to shoot Richardson some bail, citing Andrew Ogletree 's dropped touchdown and other missed opportunities. Adam Aizer also provided optimism regarding Richardson's play. "First of all I'm not really going to look at completion percentage for Anthony Richardson, it's almost never going to be good. He throws the ball down the field so much. If he had hit Alec Pierce in stride, he could've had a big play or maybe a touchdown. I actually was encouraged that there were plays to be made. Guys were wide open. Detroit had a bad day defensively and you didn't see it because they didn't take advantage of it, but he did enough as a rusher. He had over 30 yards on the opening drive, where I kind of felt like, I'm not going to be afraid to go back to him. ...He wasn't that far away from having actually a pretty huge game against the Lions, in my opinion." I happen to agree with Adam here. Yes, this is a boom-bust play, but he could have a brilliant game just when you need it the most. Down the stretch, the highest-rated pass defense he'll play is the No. 1 ranked Tennessee Titans in Week 16, closely followed by the Giants No. 7 ranked pass defense in Week 17. Other than those two matchups, the remaining three teams are near the bottom of the league, and I like his chances of building a connection with the likes of Michael Pittman . In Heath Cummings' Risers and Fallers article , he highlights Richardson's penchant for targeting Michael Pittman. Pittman currently has a 25.7 percent target share with Richardson at the helm, and that could go up even more if Josh Downs misses time with injury after being knocked out of this week's contest. He'll also begin building a rapport with Alec Pierce, who is the team's deep threat. He recorded just one catch for 39 yards against the Lions, but that connection is only going to get better with time. Due to Richardson's athleticism, few teams are going to play man coverage. They'll often elect to play a vision defense or zone in order to keep their eye on the quarterback, as man-to-man requires defensive backs to turn their back to the QB. If Pierce can consistently beat his man, that will bode well for more explosive plays down the stretch, and I'm betting he hits more of them as the season goes along. A major flaw in the Colts offense is that there are few built-in check-downs that allow Richardson to keep his passer rating and/or completion percentage on par with league averages. A player like Nyheim Hines could've been that player, but they traded him away to the Bills in 2022, and he's now on injured reserve with the Cleveland Browns . For Dynasty players, look for the Colts to draft a player like Cal running back Jaydn Ott to fill the role left behind by Hines. Until that time, Richardson will have to continue working on his timing with Pittman and Pierce, and much like Adam Aizer and Jamey Eisenberg, I wouldn't hesitate to start him in Week 13 and beyond. 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The tech industry in Minnesota is not just surviving; it’s officially booming. Colin Miller, the man helming the faculty directorship for information technology infrastructure programs at the University of Minnesota’s College of Continuing and Professional Studies, provided insights into the industry's health during a recent discussion. According to Miller, the IT sector in the state is very much alive and kicking, showing strong demand across several key areas such as healthcare, finance, manufacturing, and retail. In a recent conversation with U of M , Miller stressed the significance of the tech industry in Minnesota, underscoring the state's capacity to create ample opportunities for IT professionals in a multitude of roles. "Home to at least 16 Fortune 500 companies, Minnesota offers numerous opportunities for IT professionals across a range of roles, from software development to cybersecurity and data science," Miller told U of M. The surge in remote work options has only expanded the availability of tech jobs across Minnesota, although, Colin Miller pointed out a certain shortcoming: a lack of diversity in the field that needs addressing to foster more inclusive innovation. The tech skills that stand out in the current market are varied with cloud computing, data analytics, cybersecurity and AI being particularly sought after. These skills are essential for professional success, and to back this claim up, Miller said , "As technology evolves rapidly, there’s a growing demand for expertise in cloud computing, data analytics, cybersecurity and AI." But it's not just hard tech skills that matter. In today’s collaborative work environments, the importance of soft skills like effective communication, teamwork, problem-solving, and adaptability cannot be overstated. Regarding rural communities staying competitive, Miller champions the enhancement of their digital infrastructure. Initiatives such as the Border-to-Border Broadband Development Grant Program are instrumental in facilitating this competitiveness. By closing the digital divide and empowering local talent through training and partnerships, rural areas can become attractive hubs for tech firms and remote workers alike. Miller cites , "Investing in robust digital infrastructure, such as high-speed internet, is critical for rural communities — from supporting remote work and digital education to telehealth services." To keep up with technological changes, Miller advises everyone to adopt new safety practices to stay secure in today’s tech landscape, highlighting the importance of developing strong digital literacy. "Best practices in cybersecurity, such as using strong, unique passwords, enabling multi-factor authentication, and staying vigilant about suspicious links, are essential," he told U of M . Privacy awareness and vigilant adoption of security measures are paramount as AI-generated content and sophisticated scams become more common. Lastly, the University of Minnesota is rising to the occasion by continuously updating its curriculum to prepare students for this ever-evolving landscape. The inclusion of new courses in cloud data engineering and artificial intelligence reflects the proactive approach the institution is taking. As Miller described , the University fosters adaptability and excellence through "hands-on projects, industry partnerships and a focus on both technical and business skills." Whether in rural communities or the urban sprawl, Minnesota seems committed to maintaining a competitive stance in the tech industry, ensuring that its workforce is well-equipped for the challenges and transformations that lie ahead.KILLINGTON, Vt. (AP) — American skier Mikaela Shiffrin said she suffered an abrasion on her left hip and that something “stabbed” her when she crashed during her second run of a World Cup giant slalom race Saturday, doing a flip and sliding into the protective fencing. Shiffrin stayed down on the edge of the course for quite some time as the ski patrol attended to her. She was taken off the hill on a sled and waved to the cheering crowd before going to a clinic for evaluation. “Not really too much cause for concern at this point, I just can’t move,” she said later in a video posted on social media . “I have a pretty good abrasion and something stabbed me. ... I’m so sorry to scare everybody. It looks like all scans so far are clear.” She plans to skip the slalom race Sunday, writing on Instagram she will be “cheering from the sideline.” The 29-year-old was leading after the first run of the GS and charging for her 100th World Cup win. She was within sight of the finish line, five gates onto Killington’s steep finish pitch, when she an outside edge. She hit a gate and did a somersault before sliding into another gate. The fencing slowed her momentum as she came to an abrupt stop. Reigning Olympic GS champion Sara Hector of Sweden won in a combined time of 1 minute, 53.08 seconds. Zrinka Ljutic of Croatia was second and Swiss racer Camille Rast took third. The Americans saw Paula Moltzan and Nina O’Brien finish fifth and sixth. “It’s just so sad, of course, to see Mikaela crash like that and skiing so well,” Hector said on the broadcast after her win. “It breaks my heart and everybody else here.” The crash was a surprise for everyone. Shiffrin rarely DNFs — ski racing parlance for “did not finish.” In 274 World Cup starts, she DNF'd only 18 times. The last time she DNF'd in GS was January 2018. Shiffrin also has not suffered any devastating injuries. In her 14-year career, she has rehabbed only two on-hill injuries: a torn medial collateral ligament and bone bruising in her right knee in December 2015 and a sprained MCL and tibiofibular ligament in her left knee after a downhill crash in January 2024. Neither knee injury required surgery, and both times, Shiffrin was back to racing within two months. Saturday was shaping up to be a banner day for Shiffrin, who skied flawlessly in the first run and held a 0.32-second lead as she chased after her 100th World Cup win. Shiffrin, who grew up in both New Hampshire and Colorado and sharpened her skills at nearby Burke Mountain Academy, has long been a fan favorite. Shiffrin is driven not so much by wins but by arcing the perfect run. She has shattered so many records along the way. She passed Lindsey Vonn’s women’s mark of 82 World Cup victories on Jan. 24, 2023, during a giant slalom in Kronplatz, Italy. That March, Shiffrin broke Swedish great Ingemar Stenmark’s Alpine mark for most World Cup wins when she captured her 87th career race. To date, she has earned five overall World Cup titles, two Olympic gold medals — along with a silver — and seven world championships. In other FIS Alpine World Cup news, the Tremblant World Cup — two women’s giant slaloms at Quebec’s Mont-Tremblant scheduled for next weekend — were canceled. Killington got 21 inches of snow on Thanksgiving Day, but Tremblant — five hours north of Killington — had to cancel its races because of a lack of snow. AP Sports Writer Pat Graham in Denver contributed to this report. More AP skiing: https://apnews.com/hub/alpine-skiingJust as TAFE is a proudly Australian story, it is a key to a better Australian future. or signup to continue reading TAFE opens doors and gives Australians one of the greatest opportunities they have - not just to fulfil their potential, but expand it. And in the process, Australia fulfils more of its own vast potential. It is a home-grown solution to the skills gaps hampering business and hurting the economy. Getting TAFE right means we're better placed to get the future right. That is why our government is taking our a crucial step further by making it permanent. We will legislate to guarantee 100,000 free TAFE places nationwide every year. That means more tradies to build more homes. More apprentices getting a start. More carers to look after our loved ones, whether they're just starting out on life's journey or have a respectable bit of mileage on the clock. And it will equip Australians to enhance their own skills and adapt to the economy as it keeps evolving. What a boon this will be for Australia. My government made it a priority to put public TAFE back at the centre of vocational education and training. And our game-changing investment in free TAFE is already delivering results. 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The Syro-Malabar Church has said that the suspension of a young priest, who allegedly slighted the vicar of Mar Sleeva Forane Church, Manjapra, in front of a large gathering of the faithful during a Mass recently is in keeping with the Church laws and slammed the protest against the suspension calling it “orchestrated”. “A group of priests, with the support of anti-Church forces are protesting against the official Church action. But the faithful will reject the protest,” said Father Antony Vadakkekara, spokesman for the Church here on Saturday (November 30). “It is common practice that those who err are corrected through punitive action. It is, therefore, important that the Ernakulam-Angamaly archdiocese is spared more shaming in public through uncalled protests. The priests and organisations involved in the protest must turn back from their course of action,” said Father Vadakkekara. The spokesman also said that when priests, who were bound by the vow of obedience were breaching discipline. They not only plunge their souls into peril but also set a bad example for the faithful. The official Church statement came in the wake of a call by the rebel group of priests in the archdiocese for public protest against the suspension of the priest. There would be public protest if the “unjust” suspension was not withdrawn, said Father Jose Vailikodath, spokesman for Athiroopatha Samrakshana Samithi, the rebel group. The statement claimed that Father Jeff Pozheliparambil, assistant vicar of the Manjapra Forane, was suspended without even being issued a show-cause notice. If the suspension is not withdrawn by December 3, the priests’ group and the lay people would come out in protest against apostolic administrator Bosco Puthur and the archdiocesan curia, it said. Father Sebastian Thalian, convenor of the rebel priests’ forum, said the apostolic administrator and the curia had become laughing stocks through their actions. Published - November 30, 2024 07:35 pm IST Copy link Email Facebook Twitter Telegram LinkedIn WhatsApp Reddit Kochi / Kerala / religion and beliefDamage deposit approved for camper cabins at Kandiyohi County parks
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